ZSQD relocation issue

[isaaclevi]

Hi Toliss team,

XP12 , being aligned on runway 16 ZSQD , Toliss keeps showing the old one and only has runway 17/35

Cheers

isaaclevi

[GlidingKiwi]

Does the AIRAC cycle you are using still use runway 17/35?

[keenrw]

Hi

i have looked at the global airports apt.dat file and think ive found the issue .... the toliss is referring to the old ZSQD which is saying closed(X).. that has runway 17/35.... the new Airport is listed as XZ001I Qingdao Jiaodong Intl , the toliss obviously dosnt recognize XZ001I.... heres the issue

the new one

1     29 0 0 XZ001 Qingdao Jiaodong Intl
1302 city Qingdao
1302 country CHN China
1302 datum_lat 36.364755
1302 datum_lon 120.086827
1302 gui_label 3D
1302 iata_code TAO
1302 icao_code ZSQD
1302 region_code ZS
1302 state Shandong
1302 transition_alt 9800
1302 transition_level 11800
100 60.00 2 2 0.30 1 3 0  16 36.3812370 120.0932050 0 121 3 2 1 1 34 36.3503498 120.1053458 0 116 3 1 0 1
100 45.00 2 2 0.30 1 3 0  17 36.3709654 120.0716952 0 119 3 2 1 0 35 36.3400690 120.0837981 0 119 3 1 0 0

 

vs the old one

1     32 0 0 ZSQD [X] Qingdao Liuting
1302 city Qingdao
1302 country CHN China
1302 datum_lat 36.265
1302 datum_lon 120.373333333
1302 gui_label 3D
1302 local_code TAO
1302 region_code ZS
1302 state Shandong Province
1302 transition_alt 9800
1302 transition_level 11800
100 45.00 1 1 0.00 0 0 0  17 36.2808773 120.3698057 0 40 0 0 0 0 35 36.2512136 120.3792328 0 40 0 0 0 0

 

Not to sure what to suggest in fixing it .. Maybe swapping XZ001 and ZSQD around might trick the toliss into seeing the correct airport , not sure what other effects it would cause..im guessing the Toliss gets the ICAO code from the first line starting with 1 ....and runways with line 100

 

 

 

Edited April 17, 2023 by keenrw

[keenrw]

Update ,..... that seemed to work as it now displays the correct Approaches...as im just using the demo i cannot check the XP12 Map for that area for any negative effects for ZSQD, sorry. 

Edited April 17, 2023 by keenrw

[isaaclevi]

5 hours ago, GlidingKiwi said:

Does the AIRAC cycle you are using still use runway 17/35?

It is navigraph Airac 2303

Edited April 17, 2023 by isaaclevi

[isaaclevi]

3 hours ago, keenrw said:

Update ,..... that seemed to work as it now displays the correct Approaches...as im just using the demo i cannot check the XP12 Map for that area for any negative effects for ZSQD, sorry. 

Good , how did you manage it ?

[keenrw]

Just now, isaaclevi said:

Good , how did you manage it ?

I take it you are using just the default scenery that comes with XP12 ...first things first make a back-up of the file you will be editing, just in case (ive not been able to test for negative issues as im using the demo)

The file you need to edit and back up is in ...X-plane 12/global scenery/global airports/Earth nav data and its called apt.dat.... This file is quite large so may take a while to open depending on PC specs

1) open the file up then once its opened do a search for ZSQD..click .Edit then find then type in ZSQD

2) click find next

     the first one it will come to will be this one i think

     1     29 0 0 XZ001 Qingdao Jiaodong Intl

3) Change it so it says

      1     29 0 0 ZSQD Qingdao Jiaodong Intl

      it may take a while so let it finish (due to the large file size ) it should look like this after

1     29 0 0 ZSQD Qingdao Jiaodong Intl
1302 city Qingdao
1302 country CHN China
1302 datum_lat 36.364755
1302 datum_lon 120.086827
1302 gui_label 3D
1302 iata_code TAO
1302 icao_code ZSQD
1302 region_code ZS
1302 state Shandong
1302 transition_alt 9800
1302 transition_level 11800
100 60.00 2 2 0.30 1 3 0  16 36.3812370 120.0932050 0 121 3 2 1 1 34 36.3503498 120.1053458 0 116 3 1 0 1
100 45.00 2 2 0.30 1 3 0  17 36.3709654 120.0716952 0 119 3 2 1 0 35 36.3400690 120.0837981 0 119 3 1 0 0

4) click find next

it should then find the old one starting with this

1     32 0 0 ZSQD [X] Qingdao Liuting

i have edited mine to show

1     32 0 0 123Q [X] Qingdao Liuting

let it finish altering it then save the file then boot up xplane 12 and hopefully its fixed the issue , it's not a Toliss issue it's the way LR do the Airports im afraid and you may have to edit it with each sim update unless you let LR know about it, there may be other airports with similar issues as well.

 

 

[isaaclevi]

27 minutes ago, keenrw said:

I take it you are using just the default scenery that comes with XP12 ...first things first make a back-up of the file you will be editing, just in case (ive not been able to test for negative issues as im using the demo)

The file you need to edit and back up is in ...X-plane 12/global scenery/global airports/Earth nav data and its called apt.dat.... This file is quite large so may take a while to open depending on PC specs

1) open the file up then once its opened do a search for ZSQD..click .Edit then find then type in ZSQD

2) click find next

     the first one it will come to will be this one i think

     1     29 0 0 XZ001 Qingdao Jiaodong Intl

3) Change it so it says

      1     29 0 0 ZSQD Qingdao Jiaodong Intl

      it may take a while so let it finish (due to the large file size ) it should look like this after

1     29 0 0 ZSQD Qingdao Jiaodong Intl
1302 city Qingdao
1302 country CHN China
1302 datum_lat 36.364755
1302 datum_lon 120.086827
1302 gui_label 3D
1302 iata_code TAO
1302 icao_code ZSQD
1302 region_code ZS
1302 state Shandong
1302 transition_alt 9800
1302 transition_level 11800
100 60.00 2 2 0.30 1 3 0  16 36.3812370 120.0932050 0 121 3 2 1 1 34 36.3503498 120.1053458 0 116 3 1 0 1
100 45.00 2 2 0.30 1 3 0  17 36.3709654 120.0716952 0 119 3 2 1 0 35 36.3400690 120.0837981 0 119 3 1 0 0

4) click find next

it should then find the old one starting with this

1     32 0 0 ZSQD [X] Qingdao Liuting

i have edited mine to show

1     32 0 0 123Q [X] Qingdao Liuting

let it finish altering it then save the file then boot up xplane 12 and hopefully its fixed the issue , it's not a Toliss issue it's the way LR do the Airports im afraid and you may have to edit it with each sim update unless you let LR know about it, there may be other airports with similar issues as well.

 

 

Ok thank you so much , I am glad you made it , I followed it but I still have the issue ,I wonder why, I must have missed something

[keenrw]

48 minutes ago, isaaclevi said:

Ok thank you so much , I am glad you made it , I followed it but I still have the issue ,I wonder why, I must have missed something

Are you using default scenery for ZSQD or one you downloaded from the Xplane gateway? The gateway one could still have the Airport code as XZ001

[isaaclevi]

23 minutes ago, keenrw said:

Are you using default scenery for ZSQD or one you downloaded from the Xplane gateway? The gateway one could still have the Airport code as XZ001

I have no ZSQD addon scenery from Xplane gateway, only the XP12

Edited April 17, 2023 by isaaclevi

[keenrw]

ok sorry it hasn't worked for you, maybe the full version files are a little different as im only using the demo i can't check, sorry.

[isaaclevi]

4 minutes ago, keenrw said:

ok sorry it hasn't worked for you, maybe the full version files are a little different as im only using the demo i can't check, sorry.

I am happy with your help thank you

[isaaclevi]

On 4/17/2023 at 3:04 PM, GlidingKiwi said:

Does the AIRAC cycle you are using still use runway 17/35?

I'd like to add these photos of the XP12 A332. it has no problem with ZSQD

Edited April 18, 2023 by isaaclevi

[keenrw]

3 hours ago, isaaclevi said:

I'd like to add these photos of the XP12 A332? it has no problem with ZSQD

The default Aircraft uses the nav data and dosnt take the installed scenery into account which is all good in theory but this could mean you making an approach to a runway that doesn't exist in your sim ,...from what I understand the Toliss will take the installed scenery into account so won't show procedures for runways that don't exist in your sim (unless the code has been updated in recent updates so please Toliss correct me )....if you have followed what I did it should have worked as it did for me ...double check everything please by opening the file and searching etc .......I have ILS auto Alignment enabled in the Toliss options, do you have that set too? Maybe you need to set that as well 

[isaaclevi]

 

3 hours ago, keenrw said:

The default Aircraft uses the nav data and dosnt take the installed scenery into account which is all good in theory but this could mean you making an approach to a runway that doesn't exist in your sim ,...from what I understand the Toliss will take the installed scenery into account so won't show procedures for runways that don't exist in your sim (unless the code has been updated in recent updates so please Toliss correct me )....if you have followed what I did it should have worked as it did for me ...double check everything please by opening the file and searching etc .......I have ILS auto Alignment enabled in the Toliss options, do you have that set too? Maybe you need to set that as well 

Ok thanks, I had done exactly as you said, but it doesn't work for me, physically the new ZSQD is present in XP12 ,and only Toliss  can't see it then it becomes Toliss bug but not the XP12's.They might not admit it.

Which editor did you use to modify the Apt.dat ?

Fortunately, we can create runway in aircraft's FMS 

Edited April 18, 2023 by isaaclevi

[FiredCactus]

On 4/18/2023 at 2:46 AM, keenrw said:

I take it you are using just the default scenery that comes with XP12 ...first things first make a back-up of the file you will be editing, just in case (ive not been able to test for negative issues as im using the demo)

The file you need to edit and back up is in ...X-plane 12/global scenery/global airports/Earth nav data and its called apt.dat.... This file is quite large so may take a while to open depending on PC specs

1) open the file up then once its opened do a search for ZSQD..click .Edit then find then type in ZSQD

2) click find next

     the first one it will come to will be this one i think

     1     29 0 0 XZ001 Qingdao Jiaodong Intl

3) Change it so it says

      1     29 0 0 ZSQD Qingdao Jiaodong Intl

      it may take a while so let it finish (due to the large file size ) it should look like this after

1     29 0 0 ZSQD Qingdao Jiaodong Intl
1302 city Qingdao
1302 country CHN China
1302 datum_lat 36.364755
1302 datum_lon 120.086827
1302 gui_label 3D
1302 iata_code TAO
1302 icao_code ZSQD
1302 region_code ZS
1302 state Shandong
1302 transition_alt 9800
1302 transition_level 11800
100 60.00 2 2 0.30 1 3 0  16 36.3812370 120.0932050 0 121 3 2 1 1 34 36.3503498 120.1053458 0 116 3 1 0 1
100 45.00 2 2 0.30 1 3 0  17 36.3709654 120.0716952 0 119 3 2 1 0 35 36.3400690 120.0837981 0 119 3 1 0 0

4) click find next

it should then find the old one starting with this

1     32 0 0 ZSQD [X] Qingdao Liuting

i have edited mine to show

1     32 0 0 123Q [X] Qingdao Liuting

let it finish altering it then save the file then boot up xplane 12 and hopefully its fixed the issue , it's not a Toliss issue it's the way LR do the Airports im afraid and you may have to edit it with each sim update unless you let LR know about it, there may be other airports with similar issues as well.

 

 

Hello, thank you for your help. I am an xp11 user. After I downloaded the ZSQD scenery from gateway, I changed the apt.dat file according to your method. Now the navigation data can be displayed normally, but the terminal and some 3D project disappeared. When I changed the ZSQD in the apt.dat file back to XZ001I, everything returned to normal, and the same navigation data returned to what it was before. What's going on?