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Old 4 August 2019, 03:19 AM   #1
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dress watches dead? rolex only way to go?

I read recently that dress watches are dead, that work is more casual, and people want a watch that can be worn dress or casual. Hence, smart watches, etc. But also SS watches that are "sports".

Is this the permanent trend? Sales of suits are apparently way down in the last few years.
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Old 4 August 2019, 03:21 AM   #2
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I do NOT think Dress watches are dead at all.

There are companioningies that make watches that are far less sparty than the Rolex range and they seem to be doing fine.

Fir some examples ...
Breguet
Patek Philippe
JLC
Vacheron
IWC
Lange
to mention just a few.
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Old 4 August 2019, 03:26 AM   #3
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I hope so .I wear pants .
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Old 4 August 2019, 03:27 AM   #4
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Dead? Not a chance.

With anything whatever is trending gets the spotlight. That’s all. And can yield market fluctuation.

Similarly - just because suit sales were down doesn’t mean people don’t wear them anymore.



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Old 4 August 2019, 03:28 AM   #6
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Grand Seiko does a nice job of having one foot it the dress zone but still sporty, like this Titanium SBGR305.

Clearly people dress more casual but I think most should have the need for one "not a Rolex sport" watch.


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Old 4 August 2019, 03:31 AM   #7
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I need something that won’t be destroyed if I take it in to the shower or get it wet.

Plus divers/pilot watches especially the subtle ones ... adhere to design thinking & form follows function philosophy that I follow.



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Old 4 August 2019, 03:32 AM   #8
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Don't think so but do agree that the "crazy" demand seems to be more focused on SS sports models these days.

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Old 4 August 2019, 04:06 AM   #9
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Dress watches can easily go w jeans and tee.
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Old 4 August 2019, 04:29 AM   #10
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The right dress watch can actually make the more casual jeans and t-shirt seem up scale. More casual clothes for work doesn’t necessarily mean looking trashy or not put together. A YG watch on black strap, clean dial, and minimal complications would seem a bit much for jeans and t-shirt, but there are many watches on the dressy end that would look great.
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Old 4 August 2019, 04:29 AM   #11
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Old 4 August 2019, 04:37 AM   #12
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Among the serious watch collectors and enthusiasts larger, sportier watches have always been more desirable.

Without a doubt Submariner is the 1st watch among these people... but I suspect DateJust 36mm has been the most popular Rolex model ever... and you rarely see it around our "WIS" circles.

It's just that you get a wrong impression of the "big picture" here.
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Definitely not dead.

A dress watch can look smart dressed up or down.




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Old 4 August 2019, 04:39 AM   #14
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I wear this all the time with more casual clothes.
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Old 4 August 2019, 04:42 AM   #15
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Beautiful watches for sure.
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Old 4 August 2019, 04:53 AM   #16
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I haven’t worn a suit in the last 5 years. I’m very glad about that.
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Old 4 August 2019, 05:10 AM   #17
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I wear this all the time with more casual clothes.
Gondolo is the most underrated Patek line. Absolutely gorgeous
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Things are def moving more casual, esp with the dominance of tech and the Facebooking of offices/work-spaces, I think tech is becoming the new oil and needs to be taxed/harnessed for the masses who are going to be replaced.
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OP is correct in the big wide world. Here amongst a nutty group of WIS all with varying interests, dress watches are bound to feature more highly.
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Old 4 August 2019, 05:51 AM   #21
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Gondolo is the most underrated Patek line. Absolutely gorgeous
Very generous of you

All are discontinued now, mine has been for a few years. The dial is special.

Very versatile watch. I’ve considered adding the blue dial and still might.
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Dead to me. I haven't owned a total dress only piece for many years. Even a leather strap is a big no for me

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Gondolo is the most underrated Patek line. Absolutely gorgeous
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Very generous of you

All are discontinued now, mine has been for a few years. The dial is special.

Very versatile watch. I’ve considered adding the blue dial and still might.
Beautiful watch indeed. You don't see them everyday. I believe the Gondolo line was named after a Brazilian retailer. Mr. Goldberger talks about that here.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ta...ohn-goldberger

"While the Gondolo still exists today, nothing compares to the original. Made for a Brazilian retailer in the earliest years of the wristwatch, these incredibly rare and sought-after oversized timepieces were essentially designed by spec for the very particular market. Back then, Brazil was incredibly important to Patek and these rare watches featured oversized cases, hard enamel dials, and solid gold movements. This example from John Goldberger's collection is just one of eight in the world."

edit. More details here.

http://www.thejewelleryeditor.com/wa...lo-collection/

"In 1872, Patek Philippe shipped an 18-Ligne silver pocket watch to the Rio-based jewellers Carlos Gondolo and Paulo Labouriau, establishing a relationship that would last until 1927. It was an adroit move, and while Europe struggled with lean years and a world war, Gondolo & Labouriau retailed close to a third of the entire production of Patek Philippe watches. Sales were spectacular and, in Brazil, Patek became a substitute for the noun “watch”. Instead of buying a watch, you bought a Patek - even if it wasn’t a Patek."
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Old 4 August 2019, 06:13 AM   #24
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I long for an FP Journe. Dress watches are definitely in my future.


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Daydates are very popular now and are IMHO dress watches


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Old 4 August 2019, 08:32 AM   #28
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Grand Seiko does a nice job of having one foot it the dress zone but still sporty, like this Titanium SBGR305.

Clearly people dress more casual but I think most should have the need for one "not a Rolex sport" watch.


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Agreed.
My SBGW-253 does a great job as well
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I long for an FP Journe. Dress watches are definitely in my future.


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Let me help you out with that. Long live the dress watch!

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Seriously, I haven't worn a suit more than a handful of times in the past decade, for weddings only really. But I wear my FPJ all the time to work with casual clothing. Need to get a brown strap to dress it down a bit. For sportier activities I have Rolex and Omega.
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Old 4 August 2019, 08:44 AM   #30
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Dress watches can easily go w jeans and tee.


That’s my move Monday-Friday most of the time. Work in tech, Jeans, casual long sleeve and tennis shoes.


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